Socialism

Socialism
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Funny…
but wait, there’s none left, the bush family gave it all to the arabs
Oh man you’re right! they did! What are you sources on that, so that I too can perpetuate stupid air-headed statements!?
Haha! Win.
Try reading a newspaper.
http://www.oilempire.us/bush-binladen.html
Because that site looks completely trustworthy…
because people who don’t read know more than people who read newspapers.
because some people like to read “newspapers” off the internet…RIIIIIGHT
not to mention the fact that it doesn’t exactly sound like a non-bias website to begin with.
Can you say conspiracy theories?
“..stupid air-headed statements”
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You mean like that caption?
Ya in te form of cruise missles and cans of mess with America and well f#ck your day up. Dumbass, bush sucked but that’s just retarded
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Kyle, the nazi party is looking for you. They all know how tall you are.
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brought to you by another sheep who hasn’t even bothered to look up Socialism in the dictionary, let alone in a history book.
Yeah, the real word is Fascism, but people associate that too strongly with Hitler, so it’s not used.
Fascism: Gov’t control of private industry.
Ummmm no.
fascism |ˈfa sh ˌizəm| (also Fascism)
noun
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
• (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.
The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
ummm no there is debate but there shouldn’t be an extremely right winged person is an anarchist, right wingers don’t like government jackass!
You clearly totally misunderstand the left-right divide (which is in itself mostly a false distinction in todays politics).
“liking government” – is not a left-right distinction. That’s the libertarian / authoritarian destinction.
Stupid poster. Obama is a centrist, not a socialist – we have THOSE here in Europe, I can tell.
@=8)-DX, Libertarianism is the exact opposite of what you just claimed it to be. It is borderline anarchism… very limited government. Government only aids in defense, upkeep like roads etc, and schooling I believe…
wait- never mind, ignore what i said.
you obviously don’t understand it either, left wing is liberal which implies strong federal government control
right wing is conservative which implies capitalism and free enterprise where the money is controlled by private companies
learn what you are talking about before trying to ‘educate’ others on it
Actually anarchism isn’t on the left/right scale. Also the right in America believes in small government, not none. Small government isn’t a fundamental right wing thing. In Britain Thatcher eroded the powers of local government and Nationalised it..
More precisely, the “Right” in America believes “small government” means them being in charge. Note how almost every single one of them stopped complaining about government expansion when Bush got the presidency, only to jump out of the woodwork and reform the militias when a Democrat took over…
That’s how you can tell the “Neo-Cons” from the “real” conservatives (note, I did not say ‘Right’ or ‘Republicans’); they were complaining about the Bush administrations rampant government growth. But sadly, you’re correct, most like Bush simply becasue he had an “R” next to his name.
OMG! Someone who actually knows what a right wing is! *Bow and kisses feet* Thank you for actually knowing what your talkin about =\^^/=
Here’s the real definition: “a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. ” Nothing in there about it being right wing you leftist nut.
Fascism is a form of socialism. I’m not sure how that makes it right wing, but apparently absolute control is the opposite of absolute control, since Fascism is supposedly “far right” and communism is “far left.” By the way, communists in the reischtag voted in lock step with Nazi’s…
i think far right and far left have a tendency to come full circle rather than behave in a linear fashion much of the time. thinking of it in this manner allows for far right and far left to be the same point of course…
No, dear- fascism: extreme nationalism formed in response to the growing popularity of Marxism.
Do some research next time before you start using such big words, mmkay?
Godwin’s Law proved again!
And just like Stalin you had to point that out!
I guess he used the wrong word. Egotistical Wannabe Dictator would have been a better choice. All Hail The Annointed One.
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So Afraid Of?
Main Entry: so·cial·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1837
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
I think the third fists the best. That’s exactly what the lefties want.
Brought to you by yet another person to stupid to look up Socialism in the dictionary, let alone in a history book.
You should really do a thorough spell-check before making a remark such as this.
It only proves that you are not intelligent enough to have an opinion on the matter.
Now you get to play the guessing game as to what you spelled wrong, will he figure it out folks?
I doubt it.
But he made such a small mistake…. are you just being an asshole by pointing it out?
You should perform a thorough grammar-check prior to being an asshole. Don’t worry, I won’t tell you that you’re not intelligent enough to have an opinion. I’m just going to laugh at the hypocrisy.
Love always,
Grammar Girl
Gotta love people who make bold political statements that show their extreme ignorance of the topic at hand.
(conservative): “Socialism…that’s one of those bad words, right…like we don’t want it…No I honestly have no idea what it means, it just sounds like a bad word and that’s what i’ve been influenced to believe all my life so that’s what I’m going to go with…Think for myself and really delve into it’s meaning…hahahahaha, why would I ever do that?!?”
Gotta love em!
dude… how can you hate something that you don’t even know?! that’s impossible! Socialism has some good points. Capitalism isn’t that good at all… The poor people will always get poorer, and the rich people will always get richer. Socialism stands for equality.
well actually socialism stands for corruption but yeah close enough
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Actually it does stand for equallity, history has just shown us that we can not handle that gov system without corrupting it
Equality for who?! Capitalism is what made this the greatest country in the world. Everyone has the opportunity to pursue their dream, start a business, buy a home, make money. Why should I share my wealth with someone who hasn’t done the work. I think you should educate yourself on what Socialism is, and why it fails 100% of the time.
Do you still believe in the American Dream?
How cute.
Oh you mean like in China, the worlds largest Socialist state and presently the worlds fastest growing economy?
You do know that China is pretty much only socialist in name only right?
China is a communist dictatorship on paper but are, in fact, economically capitalistic. Socialism is more like what you get in the U.K, France, Germany, etc–Europe.
And you do know that the States are pretty much only democratic in name, right?
lol, that’s because America’s a Republic.
And just how many laws have they had to change. If you have any common sense you will realize that they will have t ochance even more to keep it flowing.
Yeah, because of the Godly Capitalism has not done anything wrong, like creating poverty and recessions and having status and such. It has done nothing bad. I suppose you’re too rich to understand all of this, right?
Poverty was around far before Capitalism… what the hell are u talking about?
I guess you are too dense to understand that poverty is not created, it is the natural state of man. Only prosperity is created. Capitalists know how.
But couldn’t capitalism, in creating prosperity, create poverty? If, let’s say, a boss prospers over his capitalistic business by withholding wages from his employees, he gains money, but they are in poverty.
Socialism fails 100% of the time. I wish idiots like you would just dry up and blow away, because you have no brains to think with, just an overwhelming need to bleat (loudly and with your fingers in your ears) with the sheep.
SOCIAL Security is socialism. The infrastructure (bridges, roads, the internets, airports, most trains, busses, etc., is SOCIALISM. The US Postal system is socialism. The Army, Navy, Marines, etc., are socialism.
Yeah, let’s give ‘em all up and rely on the private sector to take care of all that. Yeah, genius, that’ll work.
STFU, idiot. Go back to oiling your gun or whacking off or whatever you do for intellectual engagement.
Social security is running a deficit. The US postal service… sucks. And it’s also worthy to mention the DMV…
The government does a brilliant job keeping the infrastructure maintained too, don’t they? And those trains and busses turn so much of a profit now that they’re no longer private industries… /sarcasm
The only things the government ever does right are law enforcement and military actions, and calling those “socialist” is a bit of a stretch.
Checkmate.
Actually, calling the police and army socialist isn’t any sort of stretch. Socialism’s creed is “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”
IE: The more money you make, the more you pay in taxes. The more you need the police in your area, the more often they show up.
Socialism fails 100% of the time. I wish idiots like you would just dry up and blow away, because you have no brains to think with, just an overwhelming need to bleat (loudly and with your fingers in your ears) with the sheep.
SOCIAL Security is socialism. The infrastructure (bridges, roads, the internets, airports, most trains, busses, etc., is SOCIALISM. The US Postal system is socialism. The Army, Navy, Marines, etc., are socialism.
Yeah, let’s give ‘em all up and rely on the private sector to take care of all that. Yeah, genius, that’ll work.
STFU, idiot. Go back to oiling your gun or whacking off to pictures of Palin or whatever you do for intellectual engagement.
I want to marry you.
Same
SOCIAL security is BROKE. our infrastructure is ERODING. OH, the US Postal system is broke as well. Hooray for Socialism huh? Idiots recycling gibberish from other idiots. Blame Bush while you’re at it.
@sliderossian
USPS vs. UPS… I think it’s clear that the private sector usually does a better job.
The problem with government jobs is there’s absolutely no competition, it’s not allowed. If you try to work hard other workers will threaten you because you’re making them ‘look bad’. But whatever, it’s irrelevant.
It’s not we the people or the governments who are in charge, it’s the group of wealthy and influencing people who are and all they care about is keeping themselves in power, keeping their money, and propagating their agenda. Look at the Rothschilds. Look at the ‘secret meetings’ that are held with world leaders, billionaires, etc (including obama, bush, etc). If you think capitalism or socialism or communism or any textbook form of government is going to stop them, you’re wrong. The only way to fix things would be to completely wipe out all financial systems. No more money. Reset. But that wont happen in my lifetime. We’re too entranced by our iphones, our television series, our fantasies of self righteousness.
You are a complete and total f***ing moron, you know that? Socialism is an economic state that focuses on society, not individuals. Not everyone has the dream to start a business and make a lot of money. Just because that’s YOUR dream doesn’t make it everyone’s dream. It’s equality because everyone is treated equally. You want to be treated better than others because you feel you do more work, which is untrue. Laborers get very poor wages, and they work a lot harder than It guys, who make pretty good wages. However, in today’s society, both are required for society to function normally, so why not get treated equally and paid equally?
Also, America is NOT the greatest country in the world, and you’re a blind jackass for thinking it is. It’s that attitude that makes everyone else on the planet despise your country. I’ve seen a lot of good from your country, but I’ve also seen a lot of bad. While there are a lot of Americans I genuinely like, I hate pig-headed Americans like you – so blinded by their own propaganda that they can’t see the truth: You’re overly-zealous patriotic warmongers. Think about your past for a second: American Revolutionary war, War of 1812, Mexican-American War, Civil War, the Spanish-American War, Philippine–American War, World War I, World War II, Korean War(you fought in that one, don’t deny it), Vietnam War, Afghanistan War, Persian Gulf War, “War on Terror”, Iraq War. So in 200 years, you’ve been involved in 14 wars. That I’m aware of.
look dude – i took 4 tears of calculus in order to work in IT so forgive me if i don’t agree that others should be paid “equally”. What socialist country are you from?
The reason that an IT guy makes a considerable amount more than a laborer is because that IT guy got his ass off the couch, put the bong down, and started studying. I’m not gonna give my wages over to someone who spent most of their high school days making bongs in shop class and getting arrested. They made that choice and now they have to live with it. It’s called incentive you f***-head.
Heh, maybe some people are actually born in slightly worse circumstances than you?
You can’t deny that people born into poor backgrounds are more likely to come out that way – that’s just the way the world works.
Just be thankful that your government spends a lot of money on a public school system rather than relying on a largely private one – so people actually have the faintest chance of breaking the poverty cycle.
Bull****
Take the example of my two cousins. Siblings, raised in the same circumstances, with the same abusive father. One has gotten on her own and has a loving husband and children. The other is in prison. Your circumstances are a very small influence on what you will become. It is your attitude and decisions that will make or break you. Don’t ever assume that because someone is born into negative cicumstances they will stay there. There are scholarships, grants and loans for people who need them to further their education.
Cool lets do statistics on one example, and deduce from there
yup, all but 1 of those wars involved other countries… and most countries have had/ are having/ or will have civil wars. Sorry to say, but violence is human nature.
Agreed…the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer is such a myth. Besides, the lawmakers who promote class warefare by telling the public the rich are so bad, are themselves RICH..duh
Is it really a myth? Tell it to the kids in my city who have to go beg for money to eat.
Like it’s failing in all those European countries with crime rates lower than the US, higher living standards than the US, and similar freedoms? 100% of the time? Ha!
wait wait wait greatest country in the world you are aware that two thirds of the earths population thinks Americas the greatest joke ever
P.s.s socialism is yet to have a major you see there are these amazing devices called books i suggest you use one
And hell, if you can’t figure out how to open those complex items, you’ve obviously mastered the internet… it has history to you twit, not just porn
And word has spell check…
Yes. Exactly two thirds of the Earth’s population is fully capable of being jealous that we have indoor plumbing, created the internet and could friggin’ END whatever God-forsaken third-world s**thole you happen to be in.
Americans are arrogant because we’ve earned the right. Let us know when your culture discovers the comma.
It’s great that you’re able to access the internet. Now, pull the bone out of your nose and learn how to use simple punctuation.
HA HA HA HA HA!
“The greatest country in the world”
That was hilarious! You must have worked hard on that one, but it really made my day to read something so obviously said as a joke, and yet still funny!
…It WAS a joke, right?
Oh yeah, this is the greatest country in the world all right. We have higher high school dropout rates, our economy just went down the tubes. No one is going to college. We’re number 26 (of 30 developed countries) in science, and number 21 in math. And 60% of our Math/Science teachers will be of retirement age THIS YEAR and most will retire. Not to mention that our schools are already incredibly underfunded, and we have a government who doesn’t care enough to give the schools more money. All of my books in high school (mainly math and science) were at least 5 years old. Because my school could not afford new books the students had to go without and learn everything that was years behind everyone else, so the teachers just taught what they knew and said to hell with the books. Teachers. Oh yeah, teachers, the underpaid, under appreciated people who spend years in school so they can teach the children of the good ol’ USA. Yeah, you know, this is the greatest country in the world…..
Correction, SLAVERY is what made the US the “greatest country in the world”. Greatest in what way? It has the largest army. One of the largest GDPs, if you have money you can get whatever you want, but if you don’t you’re f***ed.
A country should be viewed as to how it treats the most unfortunate, not how rich the richest are.
Hmm, you lost me at “greatest country on earth”. Try again later.
I’m not rich but I can’t see giving what I work hard for over to someone that doesn’t want to just to make them equal.
That’s not socialism. Nice try.
No capitalism stands for giving everyone an opprotunity to better their lives, socialism stands for pushing 98% of the population down to the bottom 1% while the remaining 1% call the shots and decry the greed of the capitalists while getting fat off of their corruption and the (mostly figurative) rape of the general population. Making the population dependant on the government is the easiest way to achomplish this, thus public healthcare.
Very true, but the officials of both forms of government take each and twist it to their own liking.
Socialism doesn’t promote production and there for it is not sustainable. Stop bitching about things being fair and get your ass away from your computer and go make your own money. I have a s**t job and a dumpy apartment but I don’t bitch about people owing me anything. I’m tired of the weak-willed idea that the government should make everything all better. Get up and do it yourself. If we all did, the world wouldn’t suck as much
Socialism stands for equality or RESULTS. regardless of effort. If you are gonna get free food and TV, why would anyone try to become a doctor or scientist? The potential for profit is the only motivator. That is why the poor want socialism. Better profit for doing nothing
Talk about stupidity. If someone has a gun at my head and claims they’re going to shoot me, I take that seriously.
When our president decides to take over automobile companies, banks, the student loan industry and the medical industry that is Socialism. Socialism represents a lack of freedom. Stop your damn whining about “the rich get richer”. Dude, those willing to work their ass off and take risks and invest their resources wisely get richer, while those who are lazy, don’t save, don’t invest get poorer. It’s called freedom of choice. If you want to sit on your lazy ass and play video games all day knock yourself out, but don’t expect me to pay your bills or provide you healthcare out of the money I make working 16 hours a day. If you want to be treated “equally” then take advantage of the freedom America offers to pack your bags and move to England or France or Canada!
i love how he made a huge comment but failed at notcing that england is part of the U.K, which is a lot easier than saying scotland, england, wales and northern ireland
Love the rant there.
Don’t come calling me to borrow ten bucks to tide you over if your employer goes bust or has to cut jobs (and one of them is yours), you can’t find an open position anywhere no matter how hard you try, and the rent is due… and you’re short $9.67…
Always seems to be those in what they assume are steady jobs for life that hold this kind of “we’ll look after ourselves! welfare states are evil” attitude… Now I live in a country where a lot of the employment used to be in that sort of job. Note, used to. The guys holding your stance ended up being the ones that fell hardest and had the most trouble getting fresh work — because there was a big economic contraction, particularly in those industries – the only job they actually knew how to do – because the work went to cheaper places.
Luckily here we have a decent welfare system so they could continue to live – not comfortably, but humanely at least – and get some kind of retraining into the sort of jobs that were all there were left.
In your perfect every-man-for-himself utopia, they’ll all be begging on the streets. Yourself included.
Actually, both the poor and the rich get richer, the rich just get richer faster than the poor. Quit concerning yourself with gaps and realize that the percentage of people on the world making less than $1 per day adjusted for inflation has been going down ever since the US started outsourcing labor to China. Those sweatshops are doing the Chinese a favor.
Socialsim stands for people that do nothing mooch off of other peoples success. It’s also just a version of communism. And we see how mao and Stalin were.
Actually communism is a form of socialism.
(liberal) Job…It’s one of those bad words, like I don’t know what it means, it just sounds like a bad word, and that’s what I’ve been raised to believe all my life…Think for myself and really delve into it’s meaning, haha, why would I ever do that?!”
Yes, like you.
Especially gotta love people who make bold political statements that show their extreme discernment of the true underlying topic at hand.
No that’s just it – it WON’T be the last time they take my money!
Your allowance from you mom isn’t taxable.
Oh that’s funny – you’re trying to make a joke as if I were living at home. How cute!
As if anyone who feels cheated by the government taking their hard-earned income simply MUST NOT be a mature adult working in the real world?
No, only those who decide to complain about it on funny picture sites. Seriously, this site is built around the basis of immaturity, that is why it is so funny. If you are so mature, why are you here?
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Agreed.
It’s pretty hard to miss, something must have got in your way…
What, like the fact!fail?
Well political humor isn’t really funny to begin with…unless if its in punit but nether the less
No I actually find this very funny in a morbid were all ducked sorta way….
Yes, reality got in my way. It’s a tragic condition, living in the real world, instead of conservative cloud-cuckoo land, where we have to deal with things like not being right about everything, terrible afflictions like truth, logic, and common sense.
dose any one else think that he looks like lewis hamilton
yeah, probably less agressive in a car though
I don’t think Lewis Hamilton has that much skeletons in the closet.
Obama = Patriotism EPIC FAIL
The only epic thing you know about is the stiff sock under your bed the dog keeps sniffing.
ahh outrofulano must have been one of those people who for the last 8 years cried that anyone who criticized the government was un-american and un-patriotic. funny how they all seem to make free with criticizing the president and the government now.
i love you
I actually am a right wing and thought Bush was a moron and shouldn’t have been reelected =) I hated Bush and now I would reelect him in a heart beat to get rid of this freak that’s running our country into the ground. And no matter if it’s rep or dem in office I’m getting sick of ppl calling everyone unpatriotic cuz they are concerned for the state of their country
If Al Gore, Jr. had either won his (and his daddy’s) state, or his outgoing president’s state, he would have been elected president. Dear Lord, at least Mondale won his own state!
Bush didn’t cheat. The various Florida party machines (Brown County et. al.) didn’t do a good enough job, cheating. The best way to get “hanging chads” is by not cleaning the mass produced ballots before you stuff the ballot box.
It’s history. Move on.
Lemme guess — you’re one of those people who’s had an 18-year hate-on for the Clintons …
Did you know that Gore was the only candidate EVER to lose their home state! If he would’ve won Tenessee, he would’ve won and nothing else would’ve mattered. He couldn’t even win his home state! Let’s believe him on this whole GLOBAL WARMING thing though. HE DID INVENT THE INTERNET!
blah blah …socialism rocks…blah blah
blah blah…no it sucks, free market…blah blah
blah blah…you’re all ignorant…blah blah
blah blah…no you are…blah blah
…now no one else needs to comment on this
Appropriate summery =)
Some people seem to have a real understanding of what REAL socialism is! The UK isn’t a socialist country at all, and the US has a long way to go to treat people as well as they are treated here! Obama is taking steps in the right direction.
You’re a deuche… no one wants to be like the UK! Obama is the end of a great nation unless something happens fast!
well said, though americans, being the impatient bastards that they are, are constantly accusing obama of BEING A COMMY BASTARD WHO WANTS OUR MONEY!!!1onenenene!1, but the yanks need to realize that because of the last 8 years of bush, the US is in the s**tter! its gonna take a lot of good ideas (and money) to fix it all… and obama is on the right track
Except spending the money in others country helps their economy… not ours, and the amount that has been spent is digging the hole deeper… the way to make money is to work at it… not spend it… IDK about you, but I never paid my job money to hire me… cuz it doesn’t work that way
He got a stash!
judging by the rankings, it looks like there are a lot of liberals who don’t actually know what’s going on who look at this site.
Maybe you can enlighten us as to what is going on then? What money have we lost so far on legislation that has PASSED?
Judging by the lack of intelligence from the conserbutheads, it looks like we’re gonna be just fine with a liberal gov’t for a while.
so that makes you and omniscient god that knows exactly what’s going on? Quite a bold statement…
And apparently a lot of conservatives out there who don’t actually know the definition of socialism.
Get a job.
No! I want my money that I am entitled too.
You mean one of the jobs shipped off by the right’s free trade policies in action or one of the jobs lost thanks to Bush and Co’s inept handling of the economy?
Get an education.
Nafta was ratified by Clinton – how’s that for education?
Those jobs wouldn’t have left if our unskilled laborers weren’t so narcissistic. Take economics 101, learn about equilibrium wage, then cry about your pro-union world crumbling down around you. “Get an education” indeed.
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And apparently a lot of conservatives who don’t know the definition of socialism.
And apparently a lot of conservatives who don’t know the definition of soc!alism.
It totally moderated out the word socialism! WTF?
OMG, you can’t say soc!alism on this website!!!
Socialism
The transition to Communism from a Free Market system and the dictatorship of the proletariat would be Marx’s own definition. Obama is more of a fascist, but really all collectivism ends up pretty much the same, just varying in degree and expediency of loss of liberty.
Careful–Obamabots don’t understand that “fascism” is an actual political system and not just something you scream at people you don’t like.
Then stop screaming it at people you dont like.
Judging by the rankings there are a lot of conservatives with nothing better to do but vote over and over. It’s not as if they have full time jobs anymore due to the fact that they lost their jobs in the recession that started during Bush’s presidency.
pixie…
The recession started nine months before the Bush/Gore, Jr. election. BEFORE anyone knew who was going to be elected president. It wasn’t the Clinton economy, it was the Gates/Greenspan economy. Obama is one of the few US presidents who has actually effected the economy from the legislation that he supported.
Add to that the phenomenal impact on the insurance, travel and tourist industries of 9/11… and the US and world economies took a hit that is still felt in 2010.
Add to that Barney Frank et. al. promoting home ownership for people who can’t afford homes and not regulating the derivatives… and today’s economy just sucks.
Obama came into a bad economy. Just not sure more fascist control is a solution, considering fascist control is partly responsible.
greenspan was free market to the extreme, and was given free reign over the economy by clinton, and greenspan brought it dangerously close to collapse a couple of times. bush just continued on greenspans policies and added in his own mixture of war and consumptionism (consumerism?).
i honestly fail to see how obama is fascist as he seems to be very cautious and more of a compromiser than anything else.
New, from the RNC:
We’ve taken ordinary taxation, mixed in some fearmongering, misinformation, and outright lying, and repackaged paying high taxes as Socialism! Buy it, if your stupid enough.
*when we’re in office, wasteing your money is “patriotic” When the other party is in office, it’s “Socialist”
So The Magnificent One came up with a brilliant solution. The one quadrupled it.
Dear dimwit,
The economy went bust when dems got control of congress.
socialism, great in theorey, bad in practise.
Because people are greedy and ignorant. It would work, but it requires an effort from everyone (or forced submission). Nobody tries though, and when people are forced, it gives a bad name.
a system that requires forced submission is never a good idea in the first place
People aren’t greedy and ignorant! Socialism doesn’t work because not everyone is willing to work as hard as everyone else. That is why capitalism is great. If you put in the work… you can get ahead. If everything was regulated and everyone was equal, no one could get ahead in life. But that’s Eutopia right?!?
I understood you the first time, that’s why I didn’t vote for you.
But there were too many racists who voted for you because they thought you were something different and just ignored what you were saying.
Chey all bought into that hopey changey thingy…. too bad they didn’t realize what type of change “the one” was hoping for…
You do have to admit, we’re getting change. Bye bye, jobs!
Wow, Just Wow. First: It’s Hard To Change Anything When The Republican Party Is Sitting There With There Thumbs Up Their Ass Going, “Nope Not Letting You Do It.”, Second: Bush Is The Reason There Is No Jobs. He Let The Banks Do Whatever The Hell They Wanted. So The Banks Sold And Bought Your Mortgage For Way More Than What It Should’ve Been. Do Research You Talk You Retarded Elementary Dropouts!
So Angry At The Stupidity Of Humanity! I Meant To Say, Do Research Before You Post Anything You Retarded Dropouts!
Nice grammar.
Do Research You Talk You Retarded Elementary Dropouts!
Careful, your projection is showing.
MegaMan – Where did you do your schooling from?
Catholic School…
Why do you capitalize every single word in addition to the horrible sentence structure…just…why?
Get real! Dems have full majority last year, GOP couldn’t stop them. And your history is completely and utterly ignorant. News flash!! Bush is not the source of all evil and wrong in the world. Stop listening to Olbermann and Maddow and educate yourself.
I would suggest that you do your research. Look into Barney Frank’s and Chris Dodd’s dealings with the mortgage companies. Research how many times GWB warned Congress about the financial mess the US was getting into from 2001 on because of the loans banks were forced to make to people whom they knew could not sustain mortgage payments. And above all, Google ACORN’s hand in this whole mess. Then get back to us about how Pres. Obama “inherited” this mess.
Actually, speaking as a Democrat, it was Clinton, Greenspan, AND the Congressional Republican majority that gutted regulations which led to this mess. It’s not just the Republicans fault, Clinton wanted it too.
THANK YOU ELEM WIZ! Finally, A LITTLE HONESTY FROM A DEMOCRAT!
NO! Bush didn’t just “Let The Banks Do Whatever The Hell They Wanted. So The Banks Sold And Bought Your Mortgage For Way More Than What It Should’ve Been.” It’s the greedy idiots who signed the mortgage contracts, thinking they could buy a house that they couldn’t afford! Umm, duh! Typical liberals – always blaming someone else for their own stupidity and greediness.
Are you stupid? The whole point of a free market is that we don’t interfere. Plus the Democrats have the majority, so even if Republicans all say no, Democrats can still win. It’s the bickering between the Democrats not getting anything you want done.
Yes blame the Republican party for being the party of no, buecase COngress needs so many of their votes to get anything passed, oh wait they don’t need any of the republican votes so who cares if they became the “party of no”.
yeah seriously, i mean, when is he going to pull out his magic wand and cast a spell to get all the jobs back…oh wait, that’s right, we didn’t elect harry potter…duh, how silly of me to think that you can do something to instantly get all the jobs back that were lost in a recession…i’m so ignorantly impatient…silly, silly me…
Hate to break it to you, retard, but we were losing jobs in American long before Obama took office. Don’t be ridiculous.
Yeah that 4-5% unemployment rate was just horrible! That evil George Bush…Had the nerve to actually win two elections…what a dummy…no wait…he was an evil genius who fooled us all…no wait he was actually a stupid ignorant….no but he was able to lie and get congress to fall for everything….wait…no…..he couldn’t even pronounce Nuclear….
But I thought we’re supposed to blame EVERYTHING on the president as soon as they’re sworn in, regardless if it’s their fault or not?!
Cou can’t friggin’ type very well, who would think cou can think well either. Cou can’t even make a minute’s worth of sense either – “the one” what, what other type of change can change be? I think I hear your grandma calling you in from the sandbox.
I don’t see the point in arguing about who’s fault it is, do you? The fact is, the recession is here, and we can either point fingers untill we die of old age, or we can tighten our belts an live with it! Now socialism: good in theory, bad in practice, capitalism: Good for the rich/middle class, bad for the lower class. That covers all of the bases, so either you people can go preach revolution on a soapbox, or just go away, but really, I don’t need to hear your opinion on whose fault the recession was.
Wow, figures. Anytime there’s a Bush or Fox News reference, hilarity ensues and insulting conservatives in general is fair game. Soon as the shoe’s on the other foot and something like this pops up: *whine-whine-whine*
Then you wonder why we tend to ignore to you.
Yes, poor poor conservatives – the life blood of America, so mistreated! Do you cry yourself to sleep on that rhetoric? I think Republicans in general really need to drop the “poor me” complex and take responsibility for the fact they can’t stand behind a black president for no other reason than that and are intentionally blocking any and all legislation that comes from the Dem’s regardless of it’s use or otherwise.
I suppose you’ll ignore this too. Probably too busy loading your home bunker full of firearms to protect yourself from the imaginary tyrants you created for this years version of Washington that the voice of the people put there.
For the last time, I read your stupidity passed off as humor and unsubscribe from all associated RSS feeds.
We all pay taxes that pay for firemen and cops and thats fair, but if we pay taxes and we all get healthcare its socialism? gg douchebag, gg
That’s right! Why should Big Gubmint be allowed to take MY money to put out a fire at somebody else’s house! Plus, I only drive down roads that I pave MYSELF! Why should I pay for somebody else’s streets?
ALL don’t pay taxes. Here is an educational for you:
Top 25% earn 66% of total income and pay 85% of the taxes as of 2007.
The bottom 50% (below the median income), earn 13% of the income and pay 3% of the taxes.
So if you think you have a right to something, you are being delusional. Government should have role in Law and Order, Minimum Regulation, National Security basic infrastructure.
So why is it Warren Buffett pointed out that he pays lower taxes than his secretary during the Bush administration?? (and for those of you who don’t know or are too lazy too look it up, Buffett was the richest man in the worl in 08, 2nd in 09)
*pointed out that he paid less taxes *as a percentage of income* than his secretary. Facts are pesky things.
Edit:
Socialism. Not the same thing as socialisation.
…how ignorant most left wing liberals are. Silly liberal…do you still think that Obama is your saviour as he is taking your money right under your nose?
You gave me a good chuckle and reminded me that I’m glad not to live in the USA. The irony and lack of knowledge about political definitions you show is quite hilarious.
Aye for that buddy. It is quite funny to see the lack of political knowledge of some…
Viva o Brasil!!
Too political for verydemotivational. I consider myself a socialist (at least in american politics, I might be normal elsewhere), and that’s not how MY socialism works! And Obama is too conservative, he refuses single-payer, and even is ready to go without a public option. Bleh.
Somebody watches to much Fox News and thinks it’s based on facts..
Wait wait wait wait wait. You mean there are Americans who think Obama is socialist?… ROFL!
He’s barely left of centre and that’s being generous. Why don’t you come to Australia and meet a real socialist?!
Seriously I’m going to have to utterly condemn anyone naive enough to think Obama is an actual socialist. I mean the whole healthcare thing is the only thing I can think of that’s actually socialist about him and even then that’s like saying having a government owned military is socialist; it may be true but it’s hardly left-wing proper socialist policy.
I encourage all Democrats in America to pull their heads out of their asses, man up and try practicing some actual liberal, honest to goodness left-wing policies.
Sorry for the rant but the candy-ass centrism that Americans call “left-wing” just really gets my goat.
EPIC WIN.
Win, just for being Australian.
EPIC for knowing more about U.S. politics than most of the schmucks in this country.
Very devemotaional. com…. not the bes of all sites to have a political disscussion.
Socialsim, not a big fan….
Not a verry good joke eather
I have to admit – I like the Obama bashing more than I liked the Bush bashing. That’s because when we was doing the Bush bashing THEY were running the country. I like it better when WE are running the country and they get to b!tch and moan.
Fantastic point. Thx
LOL all you Obama supporters . . . how’s that ‘change’ working for you? Obama and the Dems waste their time trying to foist so-called health reform on America (which is something Americans want, just not the flavor that he’s forcing on us). Meanwhile unemployment sits at ten percent.
I never thought of it THAT way. Keep bitchin’ neocons!
You’re running the country? Better get off the Internet and get to work, smart guy!
Ah you just revealed your true totalitarian colors. Nobody “Runs” this country. The fact that you think you do now is just pathetic. Only in your dreams. Also since you think that you currenlty “Run” this country you projected your own totalitarian illusions onto the republicans by declaring that they had “Ran” the country. I”m willing to be that if you or people like ever did get the chance (heaven forbid) to “run” this country there would certainly never be any b!tching or moaning allowed unless someone wanted to be sentenced to a re-education camp.
LOL. Like there is a difference between the “they” now and the “they” from a few years ago. “We” are no more running the country now than we were then. “They” just have you fooled into thinking you do because “they” are feeding you a different line of BS.
But hey, if it makes you feel better…
“Meet the new boss; he’s the same as the old boss” — Won’t Get Fooled Again by The Who
You totally messed up that line! It goes: “Fool me once… ” [pause] “… shame on… ”. [pause] “Shame on you… ” [pause] “If fooled, you can’t get fooled again.”
In as much as voters actually have any real power in this country – and their votes according to “we” and “they” amount to any real representation – I’m glad “we” are in power and not “they”.
I like the Obama bashing more than the Bush bashing because it’s actually warranted. I’ll take massive increases in defense spending, and a solid foreign policy over stealing from the successful and innovative to give to the lazy…erm I mean Democrats…
Oh no! Somebody made a joke about Obama! We must lose our sense of humor and defend him at all costs!!
hahahahaha!! Thank you! So agreed.
possibly because he’s your first fairly elected president for eight years and has policy aims more rooted in making sure everyone in the US has a decent basic standard of life than anything the supposedly “instructed by God” predecessor did?
and because the person who made the demotivator doesn’t actually have a clue what they’re on about and is just going for a cheap dig at something they fear and understand, when previous presidential jokes were generally based on the last guy being either an obvious war-obsessed buffoon, or acting the role as a decoy so well that we might not find out what he was REALLY up to for another 50 years?
not really all costs. i can laugh at dumb stuff obama may do or strange aspects of his behaviour. go find some and make a joke about those. idiot points about policies he was ELECTED on the strength of, yeah i’ll defend him against that.
Lame, and frankly I hope this site doesn’t devolve into posting partisan stuff on either side, since you’re going to end up pissing off half of the people reading no matter what.
Ah, poor widdle Smitty … can’t blame the D’ohbama Depression on anybody else so it has to remember what a twit it was before. News flash – you’re still a twit.
Again… You lot are a lot funnier when you’re out of power.
Newsflash: This economic clusterf*** broke on the shore BEFORE Barack Hussein’s inaugration. If your memory’s that bad, you should be in a nursing home.
Love it !
hopeychange . blogspot . com
Socialism…a scary word that no one really knows what it means! OH NO!!!
LOL!!
I’m Spanish. My goverment is PSOE=Socialist.
More taxes, more unemployement.
Sorry my english, i was an student with PSOE.
Only lies.
P.D. Free
Anyone who calls Obama a Socialist REALLY REALLY REALLY needs to look up the definition of Socialism, because Obama is definitely not a Socialist.
I like how Republicans think they can do a better job. We already suffered enough with Bush, who’s next? Sarah Palin? I don’t think so…
I’d move to Canada before I let Sarah Palin run this country.
Obama isn’t a socialist, he’s a COMMUNIST. He wants all the hard-working people to foot the bill for his lazy “friends” so that they can kick back and have their cake and eat it too.
Yes, you can move to Canada and tell me how their “universal healthcare” is working out. No way, no how.
Sarah ought to be President, then she’d show all those liberals how a country should be ran. She’s brave, intelligent, and is a real American patriot. Our forefathers would be proud of Sarah!
No they would probably be disgusted.
The rich aren’t all hard-working, and the poor aren’t all lazy. Fact of the matter though, you probably weren’t even affected by the income tax hike that Obama issued. That’s not a personal jab, just going on statistics.
The federal government needed tax money coming in more quickly to mend the 10-trillion-dollar scar that Bush left behind and also to fund Obama’s oh-so-evil plans to spend money within our borders. An increase to the tax rate of the rich and wealthy nets the biggest increase while doing the least harm to individuals and families. The rich have disposable income, while the poor need to keep as much of theirs as they possibly can.
The result, at least in the case of the poor yet employed, is a symbiotic relationship between classes. The poor work for the rich, keeping the money coming in and collecting only scraps, enough to get by but not much more. Meanwhile, the rich are paying higher taxes thus funding Medicare and public education for their employees’ children.
Wow, that is…quite smart
Cookies for you
Viva o Brasil!
Obvious Troll is Obvious.
Actually, our healthcare is working out quite well. Thanks for that. Did you know that I can go to the doctor’s office and not pay a cent? :O Yeah! That’s right! It’s free! And all because our taxes are an eensy, teensy bit higher than yours! So, instead of losing my house in order to pay for an operation on a tumor, all I lose is a tumor
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Now seriously, you lose, but thanks for playing, “busyinVegas”.
By the way: Name really shows where your priorities are, eh?
SHE’S MORE QUALIFIED THAN OBAMA! SHE WAS A GOVERNOR! SHE DID GOVERN A STATE! WHAT THE HELL HAS OBAMA EVER BEEN IN CHARGE OF? HE HASN’T EVEN BEEN IN CHARGE OF HIS OWN CAREER! EVERYTHING HE AND HIS WIFE HAVE EVER DONE HAS BEEN THROUGH NEPOTISM AND FAVORS!
brains have left the building
yo, fish- what do you think a senator does?
i’ll give you a hint- they’re in charge of writing legislation
True statement; however Obama decided after only 150 days in office that he wanted a better job. Have we forgotten that? I’m ashamed to admit I live in Illinois. IN MY OPINION — he has betrayed the people of the US as well as the people of Illinois. We should have seen his true self when he abandoned us.
People who think of Obama as Marxist or Socialist, definitely should get their heads checked to see if they actually have a brain where there should be one…
Dumb, and not funny at all
Uncle Sam moved out. Uncle Tom moved in.
“I like it better when WE are running the country and they get to b!tch and moan.”
Not for long!
Smitty,
No matter who you’re bashing; with this economy, I wouldn’t admit to be “running the country.” You’ll be better off if you continue to blame it all on the last guy.
barry hussien why you gotta take my money away?…cuz I didn’t vote for you, I cling to my Bible and guns, and I don’t believe your lies, your mouth has got a case of the runs….
Bwahahaha – you gotta laugh at Obama, he’s so, so….obvious – except of course to the racists that can’t get passed that “Yippeee, now we have a black president”. He’s nothing more than a schoolyard bully. Now give me that peanut butter & jelly sandwich or I’ll knock you to the ground!
You got bullied by a skinny kid like Obama?!
Conservatives should stop trying to do humor. They just don’t get it.
How’s the saying go? “When I stub my toe stepping on people – it’s tragedy. When I break your leg stepping on you and you can’t afford health care – it’s comedy.”
It’s amazing America is still a democracy. You’re all too stupid to vote.
America isn’t a democracy neither is Canada, India, France, Spain etc…
The closest thing to a democracy is American Idol. In the U.S. we are a republic (representative gov’t) with democratic institutions.
Technically, America is a Republic. Genius.
Someone needs to look up the definition of socialism and kindly share it with the folks at Fox News because calling Obama a socialist is just absurd. Here’s what’s going on:
Democrat’s goals: Get stuff done and help America out
Republican’s goals: Stop Obama from doing anything
Obama – because everyone deserves some of what you work hard for.
An Obama Nation is an Abomination
Dear Megamanneox,
It was Clinton and the bipartisan house/senate passing Making Homes Affordable that caused the housing bubble. Bush was just a governor at the time, so that screw up wasn’t his at the time. And Obama was still smokin’ joints and bangin’ white chicks in Harvard, so that wasn’t his fault either.
Brilliant. I love how Michelle has 22 aids helping her and costing us over a mil. Being a mom really is a tough job!
Yeah… I could understand Laura Bush needing more than a mil and a staff of a couple dozen to keep Jenna and Not-Jenna (kind of) in line. But, those Obama kids? Nah!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp
So, yeah. Getting people jobs should be free, right? God forbid that Obama actually employ people for his own wife and household. All or nothing, ftw.
Every time conservatives complain about him, I LOL.
I love it when libs who have no grasp of economics try to defend the party that is actively driving their jobs overseas. Your public-school education has trained you to swallow media soundbites without any thought or analysis, so you just believe what the Dems’ talking-heads tell you, even as they’re robbing you blind.
Cue hysterical wailing in 3… 2… 1…
What causes that hatred? I’ve always wondered about that when watching USA politics. With only two parties any government will turn out to be centrist anyway. You all seem to think that Dem. or Rep. would really make that much difference.
Comment win.
/American who facepalms at about 75 fppm (facepalms-per-minute) during political “discussions” such as this.
Well, once during the Brazilian Empire, a politician said: “Não tem nada mais conservador que um liberal no poder e nada mais liberal que um conservador na oposição.”
That means ” There is nothing more conservative than a liberal with power and nothing more liberal than a conservative without it.”
It’s oddly fitting to that situation, isn’t it?
oops I forgot something
Viva o Brasil!!
I consider myself to be socialist, but i disagree with BOTH political parties. If a Republican says something Democrats don’t like, they must be a right-wing nut-job. If a Democrat doesn’t want war, they must be unpatriotic. If a Democrat wants to help with health care, they are socialist (which really isn’t insulting, unless you are just stupid or greedy). Besides, it would be so much easier living in a successful socialist/communist government. All that is needed is an end to war and stupid debates. An EDUCATED country could succeed.
My favorite moment was the Republican boy who was anti-socialism …. which he spelled “socilism” … way to go people who have NO IDEA what is going on.
YOUR money, your chicken, and your watermelon, and……
Go ahead and finish. …And, your WOMEN. Yeah. It’s true. That’s our agenda. They’re going Barack. And, they’re not going back!
Spot the contradiction.
Look…go ahead and say that whoever made this doesn’t know what Socialism is…whatever. Any way you hack it…Obama, along with our tax and spend congress is driving an already bad economy into the ground. Who the hell cares what party affiliation a candidate is with? If they are spending money that they don’t have on programs that won’t work, the government is not doing what it is supposed to do. What is the government supposed to do? “Establish Justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.” Direct from the preamble to the constitution. If you don’t understand what the government is doing and the effect it will have on your everyday life…don’t just go throwing slogans around and calling people names…it only demonstrates that you don’t know about what is really going on.
My hat’s off to you, Gordy. I’m pretty liberal about most things. But, I have a lot of respect for a principled, consistent, conservative stance. If a workable, well thought out solution to a problem comes from either side (or the middle) it should be considered. Ideologues at both extremes should think more about actual problem solving – not just scoring political points.
And if we had more people with both of your mind sets the government would actually work, instead of getting bogged down. Which it does amazingly well.
Just throwing this in there, Bush had a budget surplus when he was sworn in, by the time he was out of office the national debt was over ten trillion dollars.
Disingenuous lie. You’re comparing the budget to the national debt. He inherited a national debt. Granted he doubled it during his 8 years in office, but then again Obama has doubled that in one year. To slam Bush for his spending without condemning Obuma is extremely hypocritical and shows you have no concern for facts or reality.
ok im australian so i dont rly giv a flying crap about american politics but i thought obama is doing alright? (try having a pm who cant get aussie slang right) im also going 2 b a hypocrite and say… its a freaking PICTURE with a few words, get ova it.
omg… someone (other than gordy and demetrius) with sense?
posting in this thread??
Shouldn’t this be:
SOCIALISM – You’re doing it wrong.
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is there a right way?? IT HAS NEVER WORKED!!!
….then give it back to you in the form of useful public services, which the USA is somehow sorely lacking despite an unimaginably huge national debt.
Get to f***, and while you’re there, look up the definition and intent of taxes. Or would you rather live in a Stephenson-Gibson type corporate anarchy? You wouldn’t like it.
Oh yeah…. The republicans also collect taxes, btw. Come on.
Public healthcare and the like is NOT going to take “all” of your money. No it won’t. Trust me. I live in a country with such a system in place. A touch over 20% of my (meagre) gross earnings are deducted before hitting my bank account – into general taxation (which fixes the roads, runs the government in general, funds the military (which sucks up more money than any social justice policy could ever DREAM of), pays for public schooling so’s yo’ kids ain’t as dum as they’m be wid’out it, etc), pension fund, and paying off student loan, but also National Insurance for useful things I’ve been very glad I could rely on before — unemployment benefits, health service, etc.
Shockingly, even though I’m paying back my previous reliance on them, paying in advance for any future use, and for their provision for those less fortunate (and, sadly, a smaller proportion of workshy lazy spongers), I’m not broke. I can pay the rent and utilities, buy food, run my car, go out and have a good time occasionally, and even put a small amount into independent savings.
Jesus, you people, its like you never managed to snap out of McCarthy’s spell. Yeah. Communism bad, I think we can agree on that (or at least, the corrupt form it’s usually expressed as). Some form of government social responsibility? Er… yeah. That’s alright. Trying to compare the two is like putting cyanide and headache pills into the same bracket just because a certain, but differing, amount of both can kill you.
I know my country’s still not perfect. The number of people living rough is a testament to that if nothing else. But we try to fix it, and our homeless problem is dwarfed by yours… and as far as I’ve seen, a lot of it is because that essential safety net is missing for good, honest, hard working people who hit what would otherwise be a short spell of bad luck that ends up ruining the rest of their shortened lives.
hrmm. i live and work in the US and lose a touch over 30% to taxes each check, and i fall into the middle class earnings bracket. unfortunately, my taxes do not pay for my school loans, they obviously don’t pay for national insurance (i’m assuming you are referring to health insurance here?), and they supposedly pay for social security funds (perhaps like the pension fund you mention) that is likely to be dried up by the time i reach retirement age (in about 40 years).
the issue here seems to be that the massive amount of taxes (both on a federal and state level, particularly my state) are primarily used to fund massive pension benefits for government employees that are protected from layoffs of just about any kind, regardless of the state of the economy. i consider myself independent, rather than aligning with either the right or the left as i agree with some of both sides’ ideals. i would certainly not mind having the benefits you seem to enjoy, but i would rather we cleaned up our current spending mess first, rather than trying to add a multi-billion dollar health insurance reform first.
Now, that’s the sort of counter argument I’m happy to actually sit and listen to then mull and reflect on. I mean, it’s got some goddamn information as backup for a start.
Also I wonder how many people who were crying about all this beforehand have now STFU on hearing it’s NOT an “NHS” type plan. It’s just about regulating the PRIVATE, CAPITALIST health insurance firms so they stop acting like the evil mofo’s they appear to be so far. I mean, I saw some of the sopranos and various other fictional media coming out of the states that touched on it, I knew it was bad, but the news coverage about what the reform fixes that came out after it passed really did prove that truth is stranger than fiction.
All-but declining people for future cover because they were in a car accident that wasn’t even their fault, or jacking the premiums to un-affordable levels (effectively blacklisting them) that make just saving your money to pay the bills direct a more attractive prospect. I mean, come on. Ebernezer Scrooge would be a crying with pride.
Forcing the insurance firms to play fair with paying customers is just so far from socialism/communism I don’t even know where to start with it.
I concur with your assessment of the health care package. I have a friend who has “cavernous malformations” (basically he is prone to having petit mal seizures) and he was unable to get private health insurance when he was out of work as a result. I think that is unfair, as he needs the coverage and help (prescription assistance) far more than I do. Bottom line – I agree that the private insurance companies needed some regulation. I find the cost of the bill to be rather suspect, and I think it is probably inflated by the red tape issue that is always present.
Something I didn’t really touch on before – an enormous percentage of taxes is slated for defense spending, and I’m okay with that (although I don’t really agree with some of the wars we’ve engaged in and some of the troop deployments we have around the world). What really bothers me is not how much money is being taken out of my check for public health care, but how much money is being taken out of my check “for public health care,” meaning it is likely being spent elsewhere.
This man speaks the truth.
Why is there such a debate over an image that’s posted on a website that has links to lolcats/loldogs/fail pictures?
Really? You’re taking yourselves that seriously?
thankyou! i now have a desktop background =D
Last time I checked, BUSH took a balanced budget and turned it into a record deficit, and OBAMA gave the middle class a tax cut.
FAIL.
lets look at some stats. 8000 thumbs up and 2000 thumbs down, yet the commentary seems balanced, if not tipped in the direction of the thumbs downers. seems the people who like this don’t have alot to say…. yes i’m saying people who like this are dumb. but with science!
or maybe…JUST MAYBE… the people who like it aren’t stupid enough to try and get into a fight over the internet. (=
Win!
this is one of the best demotivational posters I’ve ever seen….anybody offended by this is proof that our nation’s pansy population is rapidly growing. learn to take a joke you prudes.
Yeah!
Obama’s idea of cleaning this mess is with outrageous bailout gifts to his comrades like Acorn and AIG. Who’s gonna pay for all of this, not the Obamas.
if you knew anything of history, you would know that you have to spend your way out of a recession sooner or later. The cost would’ve astronomical if AIG had gone under, negative multipliers would’ve set in motion in a ripple effect that would’ve squarely f***ed your financial markets.
Face it, he did what was right. And if you’re trying to imply communism by using “comrades” then you’re probably so stupid that I’ve wasted my time explaining it to you
Awesome! we are tired of all the spending! His healthcare bill will just raise premiums! Ive got all the proof I need right here:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=app_2373072738&ref=ts&gid=145909893512#!/topic.php?uid=145909893512&topic=11189
Anything taken to an extreme is a vice.
AMEN TO THAT CAMOFRED!~
INSULT. RETORT. COUNTER-RETORT. QUESTIONING OF SEXUAL PREFERENCE. SUGGESTION TO SHUT THE **** UP. NOTATION THAT YOU CREATE A VACUUM. RIPOSTE. ADDON RIPOSTE. COUNTER-RIPOSTE. COUNTER-COUNTER RIPOSTE. NONSENSICAL STATEMENT INVOLVING PLANKTON. RESPONSE TO RANDOM STATEMENT AND THREAT TO BAN OPPOSING SIDES. WORDS OF PRAISE FOR FISHFOOD.. ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ACCEPTENCE OF TERMS.
And so the political process goes.
http://bash.org/?23396
Same thing I was going to say. Thanks, Bob.
Ditto. Don’t steal from bash.
Agreed. Especially pissed me off that this is a fav comment. Stealing from QDB makes you a tool, because every self-respecting nerd can spot a bash quote in a field of noob.
…but quoting from movies/memes/series/books/celebrities/etc. is perfectly acceptable.
I call both TROLL and TROLLFAIL.
I didn’t know WHERE it came from, but yes it was obvious it was a quote from somewhere, and actually a pretty good one, which fits nicely in this longass thread series.
Seems to me, someone got anally irritated by the fact that they were beaten to the punch on a simple WIN quote.
Oh, flame-on!
lol nothing to do but post and blog without making any difference whatsoever XD. love it.
Wow, someone makes a joke and you people treat it like they just punched a kitten.
And by you people, I mean the liberals foaming at the mouth over this picture, while having a hard on for Obama.
why does it seem only the wise see this… socialism does demotivate capitalism – duh
i do hope you don’t mean Palin…
if caribou barbie never gets elected to anything else, she’ll still have too much political power, because for some reason anything she says after being part of a losing presidential campaign is now news.
a fantastic example of this being her thought that Obama should “play the war card” with iran to drum up political support
fish, he never said that he didn’t want to be here…
he’s just trying to educate members of the tea party, one mis/uninformed follower at a time
Sometimes is good to not be american…(okay, in a way I’m american, since I live in Brazil, a south american country, but is understandable what I meant with my statement )
Viva o Brasil!!
Are things really that bad, that Brazil’s government can be considered morally superior to the USA’s?
They were up to some rather unsavoury s**t last I checked, and noticably corrupt beyond just some unwarranted tax breaks and expense claims.
Everyone knows socialism doesn’t work in our country: just look at the post office, our police officers and firefighters. I want a privatized fire department so my fire-care provider would be able to tell me who can put out the fire at my house. Hawaii has had socialized health care for 50 years, and that’s why no one wants to go there. That and it’s so hideous there.
Please say you can detect the sarcasm in this post.
Here is a good example of a socialist fail; England is socialist. It has the economic impact of modern day greece (practically none). My relatives (who actually live there) are fed up with socialism. Most people won’t apply for the benefits, and most of the benefits apply to illegal aliens(which should be dealt with, and not given handouts)
1) England is not a country in the same way that the US is (it’s the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northen Ireland if you’re interested.
2) You only think of “England” as communist because of Clement Atlee and the 1945 government (and I’ll get to that later). New Labour at the moment is right wing, as various people have already said.
3) Though Atlee was one of the best Prime Ministers of Britain, his government was not the one which came up with one of the greatest (and I’ll shoot anyone down who doesnt beleive that it was. Its not the greatest now but its still something to be proud of) things of the post war shake up, the NHS. The NHS was the brain child of William Beveridge (a liberal). Atlee’s Government, a socialist government and seriously helped the post war Britain get back on its feet with privitisation of various industries including coal and the rail.
We were sort of socialist in the 70s…. but, damn the 80s sorted that out. We practically reinvented corporate greed and its influence on policy.
weak.. hes president now so SHUT THE F&%k UP.. please
Bipartisans are so easy to troll. Lighten up, wankers. Both “sides” of your government have a part in this.
I love that Americans have Communism, Socialism & Marxism (Karl not Groucho) so completely mixed up. You never complain of Socialism when it saves your private companies from their own destruction. Like a previous poster said, Socialism is your government services. Your whole system is a bad mix of Socialism & Capitalism, mostly Socialism to do what’s not profitable enough for corporations to do.
this reminds me of a couple of things i heard while in iraq, OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America, anfd CHANGE: Come Help A Negro Get Elected, of course the change one had a different n word but i am being nice
Alright Never give just the tip, Would you rather have unreasonably high healthcare that you pay for and actually benefits you? Or would you pay extremely high taxes for your health care and other peoples healthcare that you may or may not be able to afford?
shut the f*** up your debating politics on a f***ing blog get a life/job/girlfriend/boyfriend/different hobby/ or just shut the f*** up no one cares what you think you’re blogging on verydemotivational.com.
shut up all of you and get a life/job/boyfriend/girlfriend/new hobby/ or just shut up…you’re blogging on verydemotivational.com you’re ruining the humor with a completely endless and extremely pointless bickering that gets you nowhere in the end
deliciously ironic
every time someone calls them “arabs” God kills a baby…
Also, he did make it possible for people to not have to rob banks just to get their prozac
Crikey, some people on this thread have evidently never heard of the NHS – it’s the health care system the UK has, where tax goes into healthcare. I.e. free healthcare for everyone. And it works! Unless the Tories get elected, that is….
Why can’t people break free of the political party system and form their own opinions? I don’t follow Democrats or Republicans; I believe that the nationalization (big business bailout) program was a poor choice. Also, taking the United States’ population into account, socialized healthcare is likely to encounter a good deal of problems if rushed as it has been. The people who are getting so worked up over this and sticking to their party need to lighten up and think for once.
last!
This is awesome
I have one comment to make about this:
LEARN WHAT SOCIALISM IS. Go take a history class. You’ll learn quickly that Obama’s presidency is NOWHERE near socialism.
This really ticks me off. All the other countries are laughing in our stupidity here, people.
Um guys? It’s just a poster to make people laugh…should save your political comments for political websites and blogs.
I’m just glad that everyone is so gun ho on any issue… ah when bush was in office i was so angry! Now that obama’s in office its your turn
I’M PRETTY SURE WHOEVER MADE THIS POSTER WAS JOKING. You know, a joke, like happy people make when they like to poke fun at something?
The only thing I can keep thinking when I see this… is…
He was fairly elected. And actually seems to be *trying* to stick to the promises that brought that about. To the extent that the political opposition tried to block his keystone scheme and he had to make a heavy compromise deal with a floating senator in order to scrape it through.
Not sure if you’ve seen a socialist state recently, but… yeah. That sort of thing doesn’t happen so much.
Yep, and that’s why people want to kill him now. I’d be scared to be him. D:
Yeah, he’s about as radical as the square root of 5.
The ratings up… THEY’RE OVER 9000!!!!!!!
A site that’s not 100% liberals… =) I’m so happy to see that theirs a few Americans who a smart enogh to pick up a newspaper or watch the news these days. Oh and for all the ppl that supports what Obama is doing… The liberal news stations hardly stand by him anymore, I wonder why that is? Oh, Yeah! Cuz he’s WRONG. And has officially screwed our economy. And also if you look at the stocks that everyone is saying Obama helped improve =\^^/= It’s all the companies that recieved NO fed funding that are growing… goodnight
Americans: Mistaking mostly right wing politicians for socialists since Joseph McCarthy.
all u obama lovers, look at the numbers and stop arguing that this isnt true
Quebec’s healthcare system FTW!
This is just dumb — according to this guy, paying taxes AT ALL is socialism.
Ha its funny because its true. That is till he does actually take my money. Then it will just be sad.
The irony in this whole debate is that the “Republicans” used to hold the views the “Democrats” now hold, in addition to the fact that the “Democrats” used to hold the views that the “Republicans” now hold. The entire two-party system is based on flip-flopping, thus rendering all of your arguments about party lines invalid. Obama may have socialist tendencys, but it not a socialist government. The thing about it is that people want social services but not the higher taxes that fund them. It’s basically a debate over big government versus reduced government. The thing people have to remember is that you cannot have social services AND lowered taxes. Simple as that. Trying to make the system work in that fashion is the exact reason why the economy is failing. Not enough money is being paid in to support it. Either pay your raised taxes and love your social systems, or cut them and have the extra money to put back into the economy in the form of untaxed, expendible money.
“For the last time, I take YOUR money!”
Isn’t that called taxes?
Yes, it is. The point of the debate people are having on this poster is how they don’t want to be taxed. They want the social programs, but don’t want to pay the taxes.
The primary problem with all this is that you have two groups: the idealists and the realists.
The Idealists are those who realize that socialism, IN THEORY, is a perfect government.
The Realists realize that Socialism does not work in real life, as humanity’s greed corrupts the system. Most Realists realize that Capitalism is 2nd-best after Socialism. Frankly put, Capitalism is Darwinism on an individual scale: Those who don’t smoke weed, pot, etc through high school can get the opportunity to learn advanced trade skills, and earn their keep in society.
While, say, farm workers may work 18-hour days for much less than a computer programmer gets payed for 9 hours, this is only logical. The programmer payed an extravagant sum of money to go to college, while the farm worker did not. As in natural evolution, this system is not perfect: a large number of unfortunate individuals ‘fall through the cracks.’
As a further note, I have always been fascinated with WW2, primarily the actual combat technology and techinques. However, I feel insulted to have people calling Hitler ‘right-wing.’ NaZi stands for “Nationalsozialismus” or ‘National Socialism.’ The word which you are looking for is IN the NAME!
Also, as I do not in any way pretend to be perfect or at least even above-average, I feel that it is polite to tell all the people who will, quite inevitably, flame this comment that I appreciate their effort, if not their wit.
The full name of North Korea is “The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea”. I guess that means it must be a democracy, according to your theory about names. And that’s just one example. Let’s not even go into the Holy Roman Empire (which was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire – it was a loose confederation of German states).
Also, you did not explain why you think socialism does not work. Of course some people would be corrupt in socialism – some people are corrupt in ANY system. Lots of people are corrupt in capitalism right now.
Oh, and the only reason why the computer programmer played an extravagant sum of money to go to college is because college in the United States is FAR more expensive than it needs to be.
Whoever made this obviously doesn’t know what socialism is. I’m surprised they were smart enough to upload this to the internet
I find it amusing how upset people can become over politics on humor sites. I’m sure you guys can find plenty of Bush-bashing on other sites to balance out this pic.
Copy and Paste much you guys??? If you dont like this, recaption it
Obama is a TERRIBLE president. He wants to make us a socialist country. He wants COMPLETE CONTROL over the internet whenever the f*** he wants because of an “emergency”. F*** Obama.
^ learned this from watching Glen Beck for an hour.
i like plankton! obama, not so much…
But then again, he’s american so I have a good reason to think he’s evil!
wow… I just wish I had “tl;dr” this whole thing….
I think maybe 4 posters had actual intelligent comments ( I won’t even include my own, since it was off-topic for the OP ). Everyone else just let their fingers fly without bothering to think/research/read/gain knowledge beforehand. Cheers to you all, and I thank you for NOT being part of my government (good or bad as it is).
My own view, I’m not stupid enough to put out here on a HUMOR SITE, you insipid f**tards. Just say that the poster this whole thread about was both WIN/FAIL; first glance WIN because it’s a joke about the current President, FAIL because the title/caption are incorrect if you take a moment and ponder what they mean. Any further reasoning just invites stupidity and flames all around.
And again, flame-on!
YOU DONT HAVE PANCAKE MIX!!!!